Time for another Quote of the Month. I swear since I started doing this, it seems like time flies by, or I am getting old, or something. I had to check my archives to see if I had posted one this month… Lets go with James Madison this time. One of the main men who put pen to our constitution. I have got to see if I can find a way to put the posts in this series in a file somehwere. Anyway, here is James Madison speaking of the “truths” of religion.
“What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not.” – “A Memorial and Remonstrance”, 1785
If Madison were alive today I suspect our professional creationists would refer to him as: Strident! Militant! I’d say he hit the peg squarely with the hammer. The one thing that stands the test of time, is the is the intent of religion to subvert human liberties in favor of wealth and power.
Madison was right. The times when religion has been on the side of the people, is when the king was not on their side but they have always subverted liberties
I find it intriguing that the great men of yesteryear were very keen on the same things we see today. The fact that history tends often to repeat itself, and religions tend to remain unchanged in their agendas, is some sort of universal truth.
I agree. When I first started reading the writings of people like Jefferson and Madison, I was surprised to see the things I believe in they did too. However, nowhere in my schooling did I come across this information about great Americans such as these. That is the power religion has on this country. It subverts free thought and supplants it with bullshit about “faith” and “belief in God” being what we as Americans are and have always been about. Not true. Many great Americans fought for and believed in liberty and the right to be free from religion as well as the right to freely choose which religion one wanted to believe in.
I agree 100% That is why I decided to do this Quote of the Month series. For whatever reason, the things our founders had to say about religion, didn’t make it to the text books, and the religious are quite pleased that few know the things they actually said of religion. That gives the religiously motivated the option of making claims untrue, because unfortunately there are few children, or adults, that will actually look into the lies they are being told. Then they ignorantly perpetuate these untruths. A gross injustice of history, a sure sign of intellectual laziness, as well as a clear case of malicious intent.
very, very much malicious intent. I’ve mentioned on my blog that the true conspiracy in America is the Christian one. I mean that. Fuckers.