Fermi Paradox? Drake Equation?

If either of these topics peaks your interest I just read a really good write up here:

https://www.cloudynights.com/articles/cat/articles/resolving-the-fermi-paradox-r3162

Very well thought out, coherent, logically presented, and I agree with most all of it. Even if you do not agree there is much here to tickle the fancies of any space nerd. Enjoy, nerds 🙂

…I have always (well since I learned enough to actually have an informed thought) felt that the sheer vastness of the universe, and the sheer number of galaxies, hosting innumerable stars, each with a high probabilty of planets, means it is highly improbable that technological intelligence such as ours, developed only here and nowhere else. Also the incredible distances between all points in this universe, with all sorts of radiation, the ever present danger of the vacuum of space, micrometeorites, as well as all sort of unforseen hazards in the way, and the lack of light speed capabilities makes it highly unlikely we will ever be able to confirm or truly deny the existence of an ETI.

Nevermind the fact that even if we had light speed technology it would take many generations of our species to travel any meaningful distance. Thereby diminishing any real possibilities of discovery of said ETI.

I sure am glad, in the meantime, we have sci-fi.

27 thoughts on “Fermi Paradox? Drake Equation?

  1. Ain’t that the truth. What are you reading right now?

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    • John, I wish I could tell you I was knee deep in a good book, but haven’t had time for it. Last book I read was Neil Shubin’s “Your Inner Fish.” A great presentation of the predictive power of the science of evolution.

      I generally only have time for watching a movie here and there, I really liked Guardians of the Galaxy 1 and 2. Pacific Rim was pretty good. There are plenty others but can’t yank em from the top of my head atm.

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  2. Voyager 1 is going 38,000 mph and will reach a star in the Big Dipper in 40,000 years. Lol. Even at light speed we’d be 4 years to the closest star, but hundreds of years to most. I need to invent a space bender for sure. Light hitting the Hubble from the deep space photos was emitted as much as 75billion years ago. It’s an insanely huge comprehension. I love this stuff!

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    • I dig this stuff too. I’ve had an astronomy addiction for many years, I own 5 telescopes of vaying sizes up to a 12.5″ monster. As well as many binoculars of varying powers. I love me a good set of optics. We were out last night and caught quite a few bright Draconids. We saw probably 20 in 30 minutes between me and the wife. (you don’t always see the same one)

      There could be a few left overs tonight, but I didnt catch any when I went out earlier 🙂

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    • Oh…get right on that space bender thingy ok? We need it to work without having so much radiation it would instakill anything try to traverse it. A simple wrinkle I am sure you can work out. 🙂

      Take all the time you need 😉 😉

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      • I caught a glimpse of it one day reading some old Tesla notes. I think some of that discovery is right under our noses, we just need a different way to look. Like Swarn was saying earlier, we couldn’t even identify bacteria and viruses for 10,000 years or more, then along comes a microscope. It may be a while, but human potential is pretty amazing if we could get 80% more minds working in reality.

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  3. Me too. .always been interested in the cosmos and the probably of other intelligent life. I agree with your surmising of too far in distance to ever be sure. And the idea of civilizations not lasting long enough until self destruction happens (hello current times). And time frames…some have passed and some are yet to come and it does really bother me that we’ll never know.

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  4. It’s a bit depressing how far away everything actually is. And while I think it’s likely that there is other intelligent life out there, when you think about vastness of the universe in terms of time, it could also be the case that intelligent life has come and gone on many places. The odds of detecting such life seem smaller to me than the probability of their being other intelligent life out there.

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  5. This is above my pay grade 😁

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    • Well we dont necessarily have to be experts in the field to enjoy the possibilities of the possibilities.

      As proven beyond any doubt from my postings/comments on the interwebs 🙂

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  6. About four years ago I wrote a <a href="https://sayitnow.wordpress.com/2014/06/15/space-and-god/&quot;)post on God and the Universe and asked this question: Why would an entity capable of creating such magnificence be interested in the minutiae of human life?

    I’ve never yet received a satisfactory answer.

    Some of you might be interested in looking at the post … our esteemed “Arch” made several comments (as did our favorite “lion”).

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  7. Love this topic. Thanks for the links here. I recently read an article on how a hyperspace drive could possibly work. Can’t find it at the moment. I guess one large issue with such a thing is how to power it. The energy needed would be insanely massive. Guess that’s why in Star Trek they use antimatter/matter reactions to power their ships. Who knows what’s out there or what technologies might have developed. Neil de Grasse Tyson says looking for life elsewhere in the universe is like taking a bucket of water out of the ocean and looking for whales in it. That’s how tiny our sample size, what we can “see” of the universe, is to explore.

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  8. Oh, I’m also writing a scientific book called “The Femur Paradox.” In it I explain how, if aliens exist, their femurs will actually be in their behinds. I’ll send you a copy when I’m done. I’m on page one right now.

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