09.28.18
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I Swear I Was Just Reading One of Ark’s Posts…

…and this was one of those highlighted WP posts at the bottom of the page.

https://wordpress.com/read/blogs/42952058/posts/9195

This is the Fact #1 I responded to:

Fact 1: 
There is no known observable process by which genetic information can be added to an organism’s genetic code.

Fact # 1, are you aware of the flu? Are you aware that it mutates regularly? Are you aware they have to make a different vaccine every single year because it EVOLVES? Dumbass…

This is the Fact #2 I responded to:

Fact 2:
Never, ever has it been observed that life can come from non-life.

Fact #2, Abiogenesis is what we lack factual evidence for, evolution is seen all the time. Of course if you are wearing babble glasses it is difficult to see. Bear in mind science is still looking for the spark of abiogenesis, it is a matter of time. It will have a rational explanation of course, no voodoo or magic fairy dust required, as we all know that is the dead end alley of stupid.

You can make absurd claims all day long against your poorly understood caricature of evolution if you wish, the rest of the eduacted world is moving on. Evolution firmly in tow. Unfortunately the ignorant will be left behind with much gnashing and wailing to do…

https://www.historyofvaccines.org/content/articles/viruses-and-evolution

https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/news/130201_flu

https://www.livescience.com/7745-swine-flu-evolution-action.html

https://phys.org/news/2015-06-evidence-emerges-life.html

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It is unfortunate that every single day, just about anywhere you go on the net, this sort of plain stupidity, or malicious deception, is present. We could each knock one of these down 3 times a week and the chore would be never ending. That is but one of the examples of the terrible state of our country.

Nevermind the continued debacle of our govenment…

45 thoughts on “I Swear I Was Just Reading One of Ark’s Posts…”

  1. What we would learn as kids through the churches is that we came from monkeys, gave a few silly examples of spontaneous generation, told we’d have to have a lot more faith to follow science than god, that god created everything, and really never got around to mentioning real details and that evolution had been settled and done for 80+ years. It’s still happening and I’m 55

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    • 55? You almost as old a fart as me lol. I only got ya by a year or two.

      You are right, if we relied on churches to our source of reality we would be ignorant as turnips. I will never forget the day I pointed out in my first Sunday school event where I asked them how there was light before the dog made the stars. 😃

      I’ve related that tale on the net a few times so won’t go into great detail. But the gist of the matter is, if a 7 or 8 year old kid can pick your claims apart, maybe you might want to rethink the whole thing…

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  2. I am glad there are people such as your self that don’t mind having discussions with the science denying religious people. I like to read the posts and comments. Aron Ra posted about the Texas school board again trying to change text books to include christian religious stuff and to delete or water down science. He posted the video of people speaking to the board. Even one church Pastor asked them not to include things like the founding fathers looked to Moses to set up the country, but the board members argued with what the pastor was saying. We need more people who are able to speak out against the attempt by religion to take over and to dumb down the education of the children. Hugs

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    • And Scottie, do you (and other Americans) realize how much Texas is going to influence federal elections in the next two decades? It’s HUGE! 😮 So, what that means is MORE uneducated, wrongly informed voters in Texas will be filling our U.S. Congress and White House. Scary? 😵

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      • Very scary. Why will Texas be such a huge influence? I read that Texas is majority Hispanic, so why the total republican control? I did read that the text books Texas buys is the ones other states get stuck with as because Texas buys so many they are the market publishers try to please. Hugs

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        • …Texas is majority Hispanic, so why the total republican control?

          In one sentence?: Voter repression and fictitious “voter-fraud” politics on those Hispanics and other minorities. Getting registered to vote is very difficult and time consuming when most Hispanics are just needing/wanting to work 18-hr days at least 6-days a week. Imagine the difficulty for an hourly-wager to miss those wages for several hours or even 2-3 days or more if you’ve moved thru different counties. This is prevalent among all Texas minorities for a plethora of economic reasons!

          https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/why-texas-is-the-most-difficult-state-in-the-country-to-register-voters/

          Then there is the constant desire of Texas Congressional Republicans ALWAYS ready to redraw and redistrict the counties to best suit Republican ideals. From my Oct. 2014 blog-post “Influences Upon the Majority”:

          Once Governor Bush won his 1998 re-election in a landslide victory across the entire state’s races, the Republican tsunami had begun. By 2002 after twice redrawing congressional districts that favored Republican candidates (map below in next comment), and despite federal judge’s ruling for the status quo, in unprecedented fashion Gov. Perry and his party controlled both chambers of the Texas Congress since Civil War Reconstruction. Today Texas is considered one of the most puritan conservative Republican states in the nation’s history.

          Apologies Shell for my extensiveness here and the details of ONE microcosm of our bigger problem. :/

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        • See Scottie, a new Texan damn well needs a Ph.D. from MIT to freakin’ understand the voter policies, rules, how to obtain LEGAL photo ID’s, etc, etc, just to HOPE you get approved to legally vote! Obtaining a driver’s license is almost as impossible if their 1st language isn’t English!

          Now, do you want me to tell you how super easy it is to purchase a weapon in Texas!? Hell, even a 105MM howitzer or .50 cal machine gun!? 😩

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    • Well I might do this from time to time, but I’m no good at it lol! I want to smack em upside the head and tell em to quit being such a dufus. Which probably makes me pretty bad at it 😉

      Aron Ra, now he is good at it 🙂

      …But I’ll take a swing every now and then. I’ll bet ya a cup of coffee, that if I get a response at all, it will be along the lines of “Well it’s still a virus”

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  3. Oh, yeah! Well listen here Mr. High ‘N Mighty Nonbeliever. Can YOU tell me how the universe came into being, and can you SHOW me a monkey turn into a man RIGHT NOW?! No? Well, then you MUST believe in MY god! See: I don’t know = My god. Once you learn this, you’ll be as smart as me. Oh, and if you believe in any god other than mine, you’re wrong. Cool?

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  4. Facts is not going to do it. And nor will sarcasm. There are those who can learn and change with the evidence and there are those who may not

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  5. FACT #3 and any subsequent “Christian facts” hereafter… LOL 😄

    How can you possibly examine or critique counter-facts when you don’t possess even an elementary, much less expert, level understanding of such facts, their scientific proofs and/or supporting evidence, nor HOW the former was tested, retested, confirmed, reconfirmed, and hence its established law/truth was constructed?

    That sort of ludicrous logic is similar to translating or interpreting a Chinese proverb/poem in Mandarin and you know not one stitch of the language, its inflections, or contextual culture! This idiocy in America is mind-boggling and frankly makes us a laughing stock of the world. 😩

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  6. Here’s the fairly up-to-date go to for “fact 2”

    In 1953, Stanley L. Miller and Harold C. Urey set out to test Alexander Oparin’s and J. B. S. Haldane’s hypothesis that conditions on the primitive Earth favoured “chemical reactions that synthesized organic compounds from inorganic precursors,” and through their experiments successfully cooked up the first manmade Amino Acids in the lab. Since then NASA’s Stardust probe triumphantly returned to earth in 2006 with Amino Acids it’d captured after intercepting the comet 81P/Wild (Wild-2) around Jupiter, proving that these fundamental building blocks of life occur naturally on earth and are found equally naturally in space.

    In 2009, Dr. Gerald Joyce of the Scripps Research Institute and his graduate student, Tracey Lincoln, pretty much nailed primitive ‘life’ – a progenitor of life if you like – when they developed a molecule composed of nothing but RNA enzymes in a test tube that replicated and evolved, swapping genes for just as long as the conditions were right to do so. Doing what molecules do it Xeroxed itself by using its own basic structure as a scaffolding from which to build new copies from pairs of smaller molecules. Incredibly, when incorrect copies were made mutations arose and the molecule quite happily passed on those changes to the proceeding generation, and so it slowly evolved.

    Also in 2009 John Sutherland of the University of Manchester went even further when he successfully cooked up two of the four ribonucleotides found in both RNA and DNA molecules and by doing so created the first stirrings of life on earth. Remarkably, with each passing phase the molecules became more and more complex and when phosphates were added in the very last stage Sutherland found himself staring at two ribonucleotides; half a naturally built RNA molecule.

    In 2012, researchers led by Phil Holliger at the Medical Research Council Laboratory of Molecular Biology in Cambridge announced they’d successfully made the first synthetic RNA and DNA molecules which they called, XNA: xeno-nucleic acids. They achieved this mind-jarringly colossal leap in constructing artificial life by building synthetic versions of RNA and DNA’s nucleobase ladder rungs. By synthesizing enzymes (what they’ve called, polymerases) they could then bind the XNA molecules to DNA or reverse the process back to a single RNA strand; passing genetic information between the natural and synthetic molecules at will, leading MRC scientist, Victor Pinheiro, to observe “Thus heredity and evolution, two hallmarks of life, are not limited to DNA and RNA.”

    In 2010, Dr Craig Venter, actually created synthetic life (a man-made single celled organism) by manufacturing a new chromosome from artificial DNA in a test tube, then transferred it into an empty cell and watched it multiply… the very definition of being alive.

    In 2014, Floyd Romesberg, at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, California, also created synthetic life by producing completely new (alien) bases (X and Y) which bonded to DNA and were transferred in mitosis. Over time, though, the X and Y were lost, until in 2017 when the researchers simply created a new bacterium which would always retain the new bases. Alien life created.

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    • Holy shit! Wow, I was unaware of how close we had come.

      Thanks JZ, and as of right now you win the non existant (godlike even) prize for wowing me today.

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      • Wild, huh? I’m about due to do the rounds again to see what’s happened in the last 12 months.

        I left this for Griego, but he deleted it immediately. When I asked if he’d deleted it, he deleted that comment, too. Seems he doesn’t like being proven wrong.

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    • I once created life in my fridge. I put some uneaten spaghetti in a plastic bowl and covered it. I forgot it was there for over 7 or 8 months. When I opened the container, the spaghetti was gone and in its place was a green, furry creature that, I swear to this day, moved and breathed like a previously unknown species of animal. I won my first Nobel Prize for that experiment.

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